Not Enough Questions
The premise of this podcast is to discuss questions that come to people's minds whether it's very mundane or extremely strange. This is for those who listen to the world and question what they have heard, for those who find themselves in a state of curiosity. You are invited to join us; come with questions that have no correct answers.
Not Enough Questions
The Recycling of Reboots
Strolling down memory lane, we resurrect the ghostly adventures of Scooby-Doo and the gang, reminiscing about those delightful crossovers with the Dark Knight and the Harlem Globetrotters. Our conversation spins through the revolving door of reboots and sequels, weighing the gold against the dross. We explore the significant task of refreshing classics for the silver screen. Jay and Kyle, with their knack for nostalgia, help us peel back the layers of these cultural mainstays, examining how each adaptation shapes our appreciation of the originals.
We wrap things up with a robust debate on the finesse required to reboot our most cherished films and franchises. We tip our hats to 'Creed' and rev our engines for 'Mad Max: Fury Road', analyzing how these reimagined tales weave themselves into the rich tapestry of their predecessors. Imaginations run wild with musings on a 'Back to the Future' remake – could Marty McFly and Doc Brown's origins be even more eccentric? Join us for this escapade, where every turn in conversation promises a fresh perspective on the stories we hold dear.
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Welcome back everyone. You know the voice, I'm Julian. Today, for the listening audience, my name is Big Brother and, as always, or not always, but with me is the unperceived Tyler. That's me. And then we actually have this episode, episode actually really special today because not only do we have just one red liner, we have two red liners that you know. That's what I call guests, because we're all connected some way, shape or form, and they, they are funny. I'm letting you know that right now. They are funny. They, uh, they think like me just a little bit. They, they said they wanted to make a movie but instead made a book, that that is jay and kyle what's up?
Kyle:we're excited to be here. This is gonna be fun. Let's do it.
Julian:Let's go super excited to be here yes, but as always, before we get into, like the main, main question how was your last seven-ish days?
Jason:uh, kyle, I'll let you start first last seven-ish days have been really busy, a lot going on, kind of you know just just surviving, but really exciting. Yesterday was my wife and I our 20th anniversary. So that was a really big, really big really big thing, I don't know.
Kyle:Thank you so much. I don't know who had 20, but I guess they're disappointed now. Man, that's great work. The betting still continues. We made it. We made it to 20.
Jason:So yeah, it was really good, Really good.
Kyle:I've had a good week for two reasons. One, my daughters are twins and they're going to college in the fall and they just got accepted and they got a lot of scholarship money to the college they wanted to go to. And so that's a big deal, because I don't know if y'all looked at college lately, but it ain't cheap.
Julian:Oh, I know.
Kyle:So this is really exciting, that that they got to go where they wanted to go, and I think it's going to be wonderful. The other thing is just as important. My daughter and I've been watching the new fallout tv series on amazon prime and we're kind of obsessed with it right now.
Kyle:That's where we got one episode left it looks really good so it's crazy, good, super weird crazy good, you know it's based off of that video game yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it's and they do a pretty good job with it too like it's creepy and weird and funny and like all the thing fallout is a little creepy yeah, they do a lot of weird stuff like, uh, you know, the whole, the whole world has experienced nuclear, you know bombing, and so radiation is everywhere and radiation does weird things to the animals and the people and the whole nine.
Kyle:And then there's a vault underneath which, you know, the rich people were in, I guess, and it's been. It's been a couple of hundred years and we're experiencing, you know, that first generation coming out after the radiation. So super weird, super fun, very funny. Goggins kills it in this one and uh, I don't know if you guys know who ella purnell is, but like she's got the biggest eyes I've ever seen on a human like I. I had to be like, is that real or do they like messing with me right now? I?
Tyler:don't know, some people have like really big eyes. It's kind of fun.
Jason:Bigger than the what's the actress? The blonde actress who's been in everything lately? Anya Taylor, what's her name?
Kyle:Anya.
Jason:Taylor-Joy Anya Taylor-Joy, she's got really big eyes, bigger than hers.
Julian:Yeah, y'all need to look it up right now, like I mean it's, she's got some some lookers. See, when you said, uh, big eyes, the first person thing that I thought of was bugsby from the uh, from the movie. Um, oh, what's that adam sandler movie crap, I can't remember. But there was like a hamster or something that had really really big eyes. Oh is it?
Jason:no, I'm thinking he did a new one where he voiced a lizard that my kids thought was really funny. But that, but that's not what you're talking about.
Kyle:No, I feel like I've seen all of Adam Sandler's movies. I don't know if that's a good thing or not, but I think I've seen them all. Granted.
Julian:I also should explain that I don't know famous people. I get the names wrong all the time. I might say this person and it's someone completely different, but while I look this up, tyler, what about you? What about your last seven-ish days?
Tyler:My last seven days I have been. I think I had hay fever, like it was bad, what Everybody else was like. I've been having these great seven days and I'm just like no, my allergies like went away. I went to the farmer's market, to grocery shop for the first time, which is actually really good. I enjoyed it. We got some farmer's market salsa.
Kyle:It's the bees.
Tyler:I highly recommend everybody get their salsa from the farmer's market.
Kyle:It's really good. What part of the country are you in, Tyler?
Tyler:We're in the south North Carolina.
Kyle:North Carolina Okay.
Tyler:We're in.
Kyle:Tennessee.
Jason:We're in the south north carolina, north carolina.
Kyle:Okay, yeah, we're in tennessee, we're tennessee boys, and right now you can go outside and take your finger and wipe the pollen off of your car it's so bad so we can relate to the hay fever I mean it was, there was thick pollen maybe like a week or two ago, and now it's kind of like a light dusting of pollen.
Tyler:So I was like, oh, my allergies are gonna subside and they just hit like 10 times harder. On monday I was just waking up and I had to be right next to like a roll of tissue all day you put them up in your nose but I'm finally better. I got some muconex and I think it knocked like the rest of it out, and then I had some like tea with some local honey, so I was like that was really good.
Kyle:I bought a. I bought a 90 count thing of Allegra yesterday and divided out the pills to people in my family Like I was in breaking bad. I just was spreading everything out, put them in little baggies and handing them out. So I know what's up with that. What were you saying, kyle?
Jason:Uh no, I'm just, I'm not. I'm going to resist saying it because we sound like we're 75 years old here talking about our allergies. Big brother, how's your bursitis going, you know, brother can we pray? For that. You know something like we, we, we, uh, we sound like we've got one foot in the grave.
Kyle:Make sure you get that shingles vaccine.
Julian:Oh, Bedtime Story. That was the movie that I was thinking of.
Tyler:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That is right.
Kyle:That was a good one. I liked that one but my last seven-ish days.
Julian:What have I been doing? Well, today, actually, I finally had a conversation with my supervisor, because a couple weeks ago, he told me that I did an assignment completely wrong. And I'm like, well, great, I don't know what to do from here, because I did it. Mind you, the assignment was to trace, trace over something right, real simple. I did that and he's like this is completely wrong. I'm like, all right, I just don't understand tracing. I, I my art life hasn't been, I've been wrong my whole entire time. So I'm like what is tracing? I've asked people and I came to the. We finally had this talk today and I came to the conclusion that I didn't do it wrong per se. I just didn't do it the way he wanted me to do it.
Kyle:Yeah, welcome to welcome to the job life, always trying to figure out what your boss wants.
Jason:Yeah, it reminds me of the office episode when the it was when Michael Scott started his own paper company and they had several different managers come through.
Tyler:And it was.
Jason:Idris Elba was the manager and he kept asking Jim for a rundown. What's a rundown?
Kyle:He had no idea what a rundown was.
Jason:That was a good one. He's like, yeah, I'm working on that rundown. He had no idea. No idea what it was yeah.
Tyler:No, I had something similar that happened at my last job, because we're, because I have an engineering background, and my boss was like yeah, use engineering judgment. And I was like so I guess. And then he was like no judgment. And I'm like we both know that's a guess. Why are you not just telling me that I'm guessing? Like are there cameras? Like why are we doing this?
Julian:yeah, but, and other than that, I just realized that I, before we even hopped on here, I was a. I wanted to call my grandfather, just because he likes checking in on me, he and I'm like man, I forgot to call my grandfather. So I'm gonna be doing that after. I'm gonna be doing that after. I'm going to be doing that tomorrow. If I'm being completely honest, it's going to be like 9 o'clock more than likely.
Jason:Grandparents go to sleep at like 9, right 10? Just depends my parents, not my grandparents, my parents. I'm always getting texts from my mom at like you know 1030, you know like really late. I'm like I'm trying to go to bed. Mom, come on. So she's somebody's grandparent, but you know who knows? I guess, if they're just really into the, my parents, I'll tell you my parents, it's the evening news. You got to watch the evening news because how else are you going to know what's happening?
Jason:in the world Unless you watch the evening news. I'm like you know they got that's all over the internet, you know?
Tyler:just your phone, just type news and it's all there, yeah.
Kyle:Just as long as she doesn't get on Facebook and find her news that way, Cause that's that's killing me right now.
Jason:Gosh the press and hold and, you know, put this on your on your message and send it around to like 7,000 people and see who replies and see if they're really your friends. You know all that stuff.
Tyler:I like don't get Facebook actually, Like I can't do a lot on there. I think I tried to do like two posts and I was like that's enough. I haven't posted anything since. I just kind of like, like stuff when it comes up.
Julian:No for me. I had to do a lot.
Kyle:Go ahead, go ahead, big brother.
Julian:I was just going say, uh, I, when I have a facebook, only because I have a friend who made me a facebook, like when I was in I don't know the sixth grade or something, and I never even used it and I just told my friends like, yeah, I'm never gonna be on here if you ever see like active me being active on here, just know my account's been hacked, don't even, don't, even't even report it. Just just let it be, just let it be. Yes, but what were you saying, jay?
Kyle:I don't remember. That's my problem.
Julian:Oh.
Kyle:I got it. I got it. I got it. We've had to learn a lot of Facebook and Instagram for promoting the book. It's been, you know, all kinds of different little things. We're having to learn and like when to post and what to do, and even you know monetizing ads and things like that there, just from that aspect of things, and it's really weird and interesting how you can get a specified group of people that you want to advertise to Like, you know, for our book, like you can advertise to Elvis Presley fans or Jimi Hendrix fans that live in Idaho, I don't know, like anywhere you want. That's pretty helpful but it's pretty tedious work.
Julian:I can easily imagine that, because that's something that we're probably going to do at some point in time just not right now yeah yeah, I did one time and I think all we did was adjust the age range or something.
Tyler:But like that was it. I mean, I was trying not to be a little. Oh well, I guess with the podcast was just like we just want to catch people. Yeah, yeah, it definitely feels creepy.
Kyle:I think that was just like we just want to catch people. So, yeah, yeah, it definitely feels creepy.
Julian:I think that was the word you were going to use it feels creepy yeah, but I guess now we should at least get into the question before it gets super late that was impressive.
Kyle:Are you guys like, like, like, share a brain or something? Because Tyler, you popped that up as he was talking about it.
Tyler:Money we have to brainstorm.
Julian:This question comes from the long list of questions that's behind the scene. Kyle or Jay? What is the question, the main question, at least for today.
Jason:The question for today is should I think I'm phrasing it correctly Should there be reboots and live action adaptations of animated stories, movies, films, shows? Yeah, let's go. That's the question. That's the question.
Julian:Should there be reboots or live action movies? All right, who wants to start? Start, there's four of us in here I'm gonna start go ahead.
Tyler:Okay, I'm gonna start with an easier one because you know, I feel like we all know, like the scooby-doo ones no, yeah, they started with the cartoons and then they did the live ones. I kind of like the live action movies, though I think they're just as goofy as the shows, and so I think they portray them pretty well that was some of the best work freddie benson jr has done on on film and, uh, matthew lillard as well.
Kyle:They crushed it on that film. It's got to be done right.
Jason:That that I would not have thought of that. But that's a really good example because they, you know, they casted well that matthew lillard can. Really, he really sounds like shaggy, you know, and so like that really, I mean, I think you've got to. You've got to find somebody who you know can do it right. If you're gonna, if you're gonna do it, you got to do it right. Um, now, you know, a cgi scooby was a little bit. Yeah, you know, take it or leave it, but what are you gonna do? Put a man in a, you know, a giant?
Jason:person in a costume, you know, like the predator, you know dude or whatever. Um, it's something walking around the scooby-doo costume.
Kyle:So yeah, you know, mileage can vary on that, but kyle and I are a little bit older than you guys, but for for me I don't know if it's true for you, kyle, but like Scooby-Doo was one of the first cartoons that I really, really remembered, because for a four-year-old or a five-year-old or whatever, it's scary, and like I just remembered that I mean they figured out somehow how to make a cartoon both fun, loving and a little bit, you know, spooky or whatever, for the, the, the children watching, and I don't know why, but that just always stuck with me, uh, you know, until, uh, batman and Robin showed up and then the Harlem Globetrotters like, uh, you know that was them jumping the shark at that point.
Jason:But no, that's, that's what I loved about Scooby-Doo. I didn't find it necessarily very scary. I think that's where my love for pop culture began, because, like you know, I would watch scooby-doo not for fred and velma, and you know and scooby-doo history or whatever that's not why I watched it. I watched it because I would cross my fingers. Is batman gonna be in this one, you know? Or the globetrotters, is it gonna be? Um, sometimes they have bands like the Mamas and the Papas.
Jason:Y'all might not even know who they are, but the Mamas and the Papas were a guest on Scooby-Doo. That's why I watched it. I was like I want to see who they're going to bring on the show. That's why I loved it so much. That's the first crossover thing I can remember. What about?
Kyle:how Shaggy walked. Shaggy just had to walk. He was in the shade.
Julian:He was definitely high.
Kyle:Right, he was definitely high all the time, though, right.
Julian:Yeah, especially in the movie the live action. No, the second one, they definitely kind of hinted at it yeah.
Kyle:His interest was like Mary Jane too. They were kind of hinted at it, yeah, yeah his low interest was like Mary Jane too.
Tyler:They were saying, that was a good play on.
Jason:You know who did the cartoon, the old school cartoon. You probably know this, jay. Oh yeah, casey Kasem, casey Kasem. Do y'all know who Casey Kasem is? Do y'all remember Casey Kasem? Not at all, he was.
Kyle:Ryan Seacrest before Ryan Seacrest Before Ryan Seacrest yes.
Julian:He did the Top 40.
Kyle:He did all the stuff and he was everywhere, Didn't?
Jason:he host a New Year's Eve show when we were kids. Yeah, he was big time. He was big time back in the day. He's probably been dead for 20 years, 15 years maybe, I don't know. But yeah, real, real famous voice actor and dj. And yeah, he was a big pop culture guy. Look him up, he's important.
Tyler:Yeah, I was gonna say I feel like I've heard the name before. I might just like. I feel like if I see his face it'll be like oh, it's him like.
Jason:Yeah casey casem was his name. He had this real distinction with this. This is casey Kasem in the weekly top 40. Kind of sound like not exactly, but kind of like that We've already veered way off.
Kyle:Speaking of being really old, Kyle.
Jason:Yeah, me, me, I'm really old.
Kyle:Really old. So Scooby-Doo is your Tyler. Scooby-doo is your positive reasonoby-Doo is your like, your positive reason for a lot of action adaptation Is that what you're?
Tyler:saying yeah, I think so, I feel like it. It really only works because it's like the cartoon nostalgic thing you know Well, but I heard someone brought up I'm like already blinking Batman. But I feel like going from cartoon Batman to live action Batman, that was a good move. Yeah, I can't get enough of Batman.
Kyle:It's interesting because I think, man, I'm blanking, this is going to be embarrassing the director. You know the famous first Batman. Yeah, Tim Burton, I want to say Tim Robbins. I was like that ain't right. So Tim Burton did a really good job of taking the Joker from the TV series and like bringing it into the live at live adaptation with Jack Nicholson, where it was it was. It was similar and you kind of got it, but it was, it was Jack Nicholson doing it. And so, like we go, we jumped to that, to Heath Ledger, and it's like, oh, that's a little too real, that's a little too scary. You know it's like, oh, that's a little too real, that's a little too scary. You know, it's pretty faithful adaptations there. What about? Uh? I was going to ask you, tyler, since you're into anime, what did you think of one piece? Uh?
Tyler:oh okay. So one piece is one of those that I don't watch because it's really long. Yeah, it's like 23 seasons, right? No, and I do not.
Julian:I'm I'm gonna jump in real fast because I've actually watched uh all of one piece.
Julian:It took me a year to get uh caught up. This was back in 20, 2016, and I've been caught up since, and so I am definitely biased but I actually do like the live action uh one piece because I feel like for me it's just nostalgic to see these old, very old episodes come back to life and uh be uh introduced to more people actually because in a more bite-sized way that's true, I feel like it was easier to digest for me personally because you see all the episodes and then people who have ever started One Piece before like the actual anime goes.
Tyler:It goes so slow. It's like a fight scene could be like 20 episodes. It's insane. I fall asleep every time I try to watch it. It's like not good, but the live action helped me kind of like understand the plot without having to go through all like the really long fights. So I appreciated that part as like a person who was just like I like this but I don't like watching it in that way.
Kyle:So, tyler, you'll love this in particular, but for my this was like a long time ago, we're gonna say like 25 years ago, for for my 21st birthday I was living in Birmingham, alabama, and I think, kyle, you might've even been there. I was there, I know where this is going. My dad showed up and he brought me a birthday present for me. On my 21st birthday he handed me a DVD of the cartoon Cowboy Bebop. Now, at that point and I mean I still haven't I didn't watch it but like he was the most weirdest gift I'd ever received, because I didn't even know what it was. I'd ever watched anime and he loved it, and so he literally took the DVD and he put it in the DVD player and he laid down on the floor and he watched Cowboy Bebop on my birthday.
Julian:I think we just left him there.
Tyler:Oh my gosh. You get a gift that's from the other person, and sometimes it happens david watson.
Kyle:It would be a copy of cowboy bebop everybody. To get on topic, they did a live action on netflix as well so netflix has done cowboy bebop. They've done one piece, they've done avatar the last airbender, like they've kind of been doing that and I think they've had some relative success with it. I don't think cowboy bebop was particularly loved, but uh, the the most recent ones have been well received yeah, I was gonna say I don't think I had netflix.
Tyler:There was like that weird moment where netflix was kicking people off because you weren't like the main house yep so I think when it launched I wasn't on netflix.
Tyler:I had to re-get netflix. So actually, you just remind me of something that I need to watch, because I have a friend who's really into cowboy b-bop and I started it and it is pretty good, but I haven't watched the live action yet. I did watch. There was another one I don't know if y'all would know this one, but it's called death note. This is another anime and they did a live action for that one and it was terrible. It was really bad. Like they made it a romance. It was not a romance originally, it just it took everything out of it. I mean it would. When I tell you like you should watch the show just to see the re, like the live action, to go, wow, this was really bad. It's like the world was. The plot is fully gone.
Kyle:It's just insane it kind of goes that way with reboots, too, like there are some reboots that you're like why did they do this? And then there are others that are just awesome yeah go ahead oh no, continue, no, no I'm not sure I remember what I was going to say.
Julian:So you're good man but I was gonna say I guess my overall thought is for reboots, reboots in live actions. I personally would prefer not to have them for the majority of them, just because I feel like it. It makes. It makes things too easy, or just like a cash grab. It's like all right, this is like a really big name title, so let's just, instead of being creative with and come up with something somewhat original. We're just going to take the name and the likeness of what's already been done and then just slap it on is like all right, people are gonna watch this what's up?
Kyle:what's a really bad one? Kyle. What's a bad reboot?
Jason:well, I mean, there there's, there's any number of them, the one one I was thinking of, and to me what makes something bad is that it started so good and then it, and then it became bad when they tried to reboot it. And so twice now they've tried to reboot terminator and, like the first two terminators I'll just stop there the first two were so good and the third one is you know whatever, and then the one after that, actually it was all. The first four were all in the same continuity, right, and and it you know it kind of as much as time travel stories make sense, it kind of makes sense.
Jason:And then they do this whole other thing where they bring in the girl who played, you know, calise on game of thrones as sar, and then they're like, nah, that one didn't count, let's start all over again. And they do a whole nother one with a whole new Terminator, christian.
Kyle:Bale.
Jason:Schwarzenegger's still in it and it's just, you know it's just like and Sarah Connor's still alive where she had died. And you know it's like, if you're gonna, if you're gonna reboot something, you've got to go clean break, you know. So you can't muddy the waters between, like you know, is Christian Bale's Batman in the Michael Keaton Batman world. It's like no, he's not the same guy, just played by a different actor. Like you know, you could say the first four Batmans. You know Michael Keaton did the first two, then Val Kilmer, then George Clooney. That was supposedly all in the same continuity, right. So when they did the Christian Bale ones, it was like clean break, that's different. That doesn't apply to this story. It's a completely whole new story, not just new actors, but a completely whole new story, all that stuff.
Jason:I think if you're going to do reboots, that's the way you got to do. You can't make it fuzzy or muddy or you know now it's. You know multiverse, everything is, everything matters, everything's. You know all part of whatever that flash movie where they you know they brought in every single, you know dc property ever in that. But you know all that to say that's. I feel like you're gonna reboot. You gotta just start completely clean and fresh. The old thing never happened or it doesn't matter, doesn't, doesn't weigh in at all to whatever we're doing now.
Julian:That's my thought, you said, you said that, and two movies came to my mind, and I can't remember the first movie, but the second movie that I just thought of was space jam, space jam 2 from from jordan to lebron yes, that one, and I personally found the movie okay. But I'm like, like you just said, like if you're going to do a reboot of a movie, do something different, scrap, yeah, and actually do a new movie, but with respect to. Was that?
Jason:Space Jam. Was that an actual reboot or was it sort of like a sequel? I couldn't really figure out if it was trying to just be, yeah, it's a sequel, you know, or if it was like it's a completely, whole new thing. I couldn't tell.
Julian:I couldn't even tell you I couldn't tell, but as of right now I feel like it falls into. It was like it was trying to do both like be a reboot and a sequel at the same time.
Kyle:I read a I read this is not on topic, but not about what we're just talking about. I I read a article today that said that michael keaton is going to play batman again and it's going to be a sequel to the 1989 film. So not a reboot, but a sequel to. So michael keaton's films, right is uh, one and two I guess it'll be the third in that story and it's going to pick up from 89. I don't know how they're going to do it, what it's going to be like, but it's going to be a sequel.
Tyler:That is scary to me. Well, the only people I've seen successfully do something with that big of a gap was like the Incredibles 2 was really good and it actually fit with the Incredibles 1.
Kyle:Yeah, but that's not fair because you know you don't have to deal with actors aging or anything like that, you just get to. You know you get to keep going, even though seven or eight years or whatever it was oh.
Jason:The greatest of all time, though, is top gun maverick. Oh, don't get me started here we go again maverick. It was so good, it was perfect in every way. Oh, it was so good, I love it. Have y'all seen top gun and top gun maverick?
Tyler:I have not. I feel like I've heard so much about top gun and then I like heard that it was coming out and I was just like I have not watched it for this long. I'm not sure that it's going to make any sense if I watch this one.
Jason:It's just airplanes. There's no real story, apart from you know, there's a few small little like. You know who are these characters. There's like two or three characters that carry over from the first and the second one. But if you ever desire to see how you do a movie 25 years after the original and do it right, just go watch Top Gun, maverick. That's it.
Kyle:It's. You know, tom Cruise did a reboot kind of a reboot of a lot of films he did. Mission Impossible was a TV show and he took it and made it into the movies and then that itself has been sort of reinvented as it's gone along, maybe not technically a reboot, but the first mission impossible that he did, compared to the last two or three, is not the same world.
Julian:It's just not got so much better and I have to get into uh, mission impossible, because it's one of the long series. For some reason, I just like watching long series, everything.
Kyle:So that's all I have to get into eight seasons. That's all I got in me, if you go to nine seasons or more, forget it oh my gosh.
Tyler:I tried to watch gray's anatomy and I was just like, oh, like I. It was like season 10 and I was like I can't do it anymore there's too much going on. Some drama is what that is that one and like supernatural I tried to do and I'm just like I'm very up and down with long seats.
Kyle:I don't think I. Yeah, I never watched supernatural, but you're right that show was on forever uh okay, reboots.
Kyle:The most recent one is, uh, roadhouse. You know, patrick swayze's roadhouse film was in the 80s and for people our age is kind of a famous film. But then the new one with jake gyllenhaal is, uh, is a true reboot. It's a true reboot. It's not really connected. It's the same character, same kind of of background sort of, and it's a fantastically fun movie and nothing more.
Kyle:I don't know if you guys have seen that. It's just, you know, conor McGregor's just eating up the screen acting ridiculous. But that is a true reboot and I think it worked. I mean, it was taking something like that that happened in the 90s or 80s and then bringing it to today. And then they're about to do the Fall Guy with Ryan Gosling Again. That's one of those that you probably never even remember anything about it, and so that's one of the valuable things about a reboot is, if nobody knows what it is, then you're just kind of bringing an idea to the current times and you know that's not a bad thing to the current times, and you know that's not a bad thing.
Julian:I think that's actually a good way to do. It is when the movie is old enough to where there's not as many people who can remember it or it's faded into the background. I think that's a good time to do a reboot like what is? Isn't there a new one coming out? Or that came out the color purple never? I've never seen it, but isn't that also considered a reboot as well?
Jason:yeah, fantasia wasn't the new one a a musical, though, and the original was the new one a musical. I feel like it might have been. I know it's, I know it's a broadway play, but the original was like super serious, you know was the original?
Kyle:was the original a movie? Or was it originally a broadway that became a movie and then they I feel like it was a book I.
Jason:I could be wrong on this, but I feel like it was a book that became a movie, that became a broadway, that became a musical, I think it's own.
Kyle:Egod is what you're telling me, that's amazing it was the.
Jason:The original was steven spielberger. That was like his first, like serious, serious role, didn't, or directorial, didn't he direct that?
Kyle:I'm about to check Kyle because I don't know, I feel like he did. It sounds like you just made something up is what it sounds like.
Jason:I'm about to look it up. I feel like it came out in 85,. Jay, check my date on that.
Kyle:This is where he does his thing. It's crazy.
Tyler:I'm about to say, my computer glitched out. I don't even know what we're talking about. I was trying to guess. Get like context clues for what you guys were saying.
Kyle:The Color Purple 1985.
Tyler:With.
Kyle:Danny Glover, whoopi Goldberg, oprah, and it is directed by none other than Steven Spielberg.
Tyler:You were right, Colin, I'm looking on the year right now. Oh 1995.
Kyle:Wow.
Tyler:And I have the book.
Jason:So it was a book that became a movie, that became a broadway play, that became a musical in the most recently, the most recent film, the most recent movie is a musical.
Tyler:I actually have not seen it yet, but it's funny. I've always seen clips of the color purple and I really just fully watched the movie. Well, I guess I've fully watched the movie. Well, I guess I've really watched the movie as an adult recently is what it was. Because, like it's funny being like at like 25 now and being like, oh, I didn't really watch things like from adult perspectives, I just like can reference things and then when I rewatch them I'm like, oh, I get a whole new perspective on this. So that's kind of nice to you in a sense. But I can finally grasp the actual concept of the movie and I was like, oh, this is great, I understand why people like this so much.
Kyle:All right. Go ahead, Go ahead go.
Jason:Well, as I say, that really does kind of bring up. Then you know, sort of is is a reboot when you take something but you do it in a different way. So the color purple originally was a was a drama, a very serious drama film, and I feel like the I didn't see the new one, but the new one seemed like I think it was the same story but it felt very much more upbeat and lively, you know, and like with the musical element. So I mean the commercials at least seemed a lot more like. You know, the other one seemed very heavy, this one seemed a lot more light and fun anyway. So is that, is that truly a reboot? If you take, you know, if you take something and then do it completely different, you know the same story, just do it in a different way, you know, like this new mean girl. So just see the new mean girls movie. I haven't seen that either.
Jason:I haven't but I've heard about it. The original from 2004 was outstanding. It was so funny. And this new one, I'm like, you know, Tim Motus is in it and Tina Fey is in it. You know, like the people who were in the original movie, are they just reprising their role, Are they? You know, I didn't know what it was at all. So, anyways, maybe a bad example, but you know it's like is this, is this just a sequel? Is it a? You know we're gonna do this just same thing and just pretend like the other one didn't happen.
Julian:I don't know. It's one of those weird, weird questions you make a valid point of. There's a fine line where that I don't think people hit the mark on a lot when it comes to reboots. It's because you, like I, like I said I would want you to do something different, but not so much so to where it's unrecognized, like you can't tell that. It's not like. The thing that came to my mind was like just off the top of my head, was like if garfield, uh, became like a robotic cat or something, I'm like this isn't garfield other than just their name.
Kyle:And Lasagna, which is like full circle from where we've been.
Jason:Yeah, or like if Garfield was a dog now or something you know like completely changed. Or you know, or he's a peacock, or you know something like hated Tuesdays?
Kyle:That would be such a messed up thing they do.
Julian:But, jay, what were you saying?
Kyle:I pulled up a list of 25 best reboots. It's from a website. I don't know if I'm supposed to say the website's name or not, but I'm going to read some of them and you give me a thumbs up or thumbs down if you thought it was a good reboot.
Jason:This is a good exercise.
Kyle:2013's Evil Dead. Never seen it. What about Halloween in 2018? No horror fans. 2013's.
Tyler:Evil Dead. Never seen it, anybody Okay.
Kyle:Just checking what about Halloween in 2018? No horror fans here.
Tyler:Okay, I'm not a horror fan.
Kyle:Star Wars the Force Awakens. They're calling that a reboot. That's just a sequel. Oh, thumbs down. Hey, if we wanted to get into a little bit nitpicky it's the same story as the others.
Jason:It's reawakening Kyle. Have you seen that thing where the guy says that all the Star Wars movies are misnamed and he goes through and switches the names around and what they should be? It's really funny. It's really.
Kyle:Yeah, return of the Jedi should be probably episode eight or whatever. Right, yeah, right.
Julian:Yeah, I was like I learned. I just hope no one learns how to count from star Wars, because it doesn't go like three, four, five, one, two, 7.5, eight 4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9.
Jason:Yeah.
Kyle:All right 2011,. Jason Seagal took on what's her name? Amy? Nah, I don't know. Took on the classic the Muppets. Did you guys watch that one?
Jason:Oh yeah, amy Adams. Yeah, I enjoyed that one. I enjoyed that one. Yeah, that wasn't bad at all.
Julian:No, I'm playing a different game than you guys. I'm saying, hey, how have I even heard or seen of this movie?
Tyler:He's so not pop culture whatsoever, so it's not very funny watching him this one's for you, tyler, because I don't know.
Jason:Evangelion 1.0 you are not alone Is that the one, charlize Theron, she scored Looks like a cartoon.
Kyle:Evangelion.
Tyler:Oh, okay, I think I'm going to turn him out. I don't think I saw that. I don't know.
Kyle:This is one that we can talk a little bit about, although I don't know if you guys ever saw the originals the Rise of the Planet of the Apes, that's a complete reboot.
Julian:I've actually seen this movie. Ah, welcome to the chat.
Kyle:big brother, Welcome to the chat.
Julian:Which is also kind of crazy. I've also seen the original, just a little bit Okay.
Jason:Well, you know what's funny about the Planet of the Apes is that the originals were like the 70s. It was like Charlton Heston they got progressively cheesier, the costumes got progressively worse, but then in the late nineties like 98, mark Wahlberg rebooted it. They did one movie where Mark Wahlberg rebooted it and it didn't go anywhere. It was terrible, yeah. And then they do these like newer ones that come out with mark within the last, like 12 years or whatever 10, 12 years, which are like kind of more serious, and you know, uh, and they've done really well and really successful.
Julian:Yeah, they've been really successful. Yeah, and I'll. That's a thumbs up for me the the rise of the plans of the years. Yes, I, I will.
Jason:I haven't seen them all I saw the first one, where it was sort of like the backstory of how the apes became sentient or whatever. And then I saw the one after that. Again, it was like whole new cast, but I don't think I've seen any of the others from that point on.
Kyle:So what about the reboot of all reboots that happens about every five years, which is Spider-Man?
Tyler:I like all of the Spider-Mans, I'll be honest. I like them all for different reasons. But I like all of the Spider-Mans, I'll be honest. I like them all for different reasons but I like them.
Kyle:Yeah, who's your favorite Spider-Man?
Tyler:Man, it's hard. I know people are going to be really booby for this, but I really like this newest Spider-Man, tom Holland.
Julian:Yeah, because I think he actually plays a kid.
Tyler:I can believe that he's a like you know, someone who's actually coming of age and trying to figure out like oh no, like I have spider powers, like what am I gonna do? And like everybody else I feel was maybe old, maybe they were the same age, but they just had an older no then toby mcguire and adrian garfield were both pushing 30 when they yeah, yeah
Jason:tom holland was like 17, like it was. You're right, you're absolutely right. It wasn't until the most recent one, um, where I started looking and going. He doesn't quite look like a teenager anymore. He's starting to look a little too like you know, like he's aged, aged out of that version of spider-man. Now you know the 20-something spider-man. He's still perfect, for I think he's, I like he's aged, aged out of that version of spider-man. Now, you know the 20-something spider-man, he's still perfect, for I think he's. I think he's the best spider-man in my opinion for me.
Julian:I like the spider-man movies, but I do want to see him actually grow up like I don't. I'm tired of the uh with great power, like yeah, I'm like. I'm like cool, good, we've seen him be a k to as well for the past 20 years. Move on, please give me a adult version of spider-man where he's I think we're getting close to that.
Kyle:I think that may be where they're heading. Next is uh, grown up, grown up, peter parker. All right, this is going to show your true nerdiness. Okay, we've dipped into our toe, into the nerdy, the nerdy waters, but here's this one right here. What about the reboot of star trek?
Tyler:I like, I like it big brother's like star trek?
Kyle:is that like star wars? What is that? I've heard of it yeah yeah, yeah, chris pine and uh zachary quinto.
Jason:The new ones that well, I mean they're the newest ones, like eight years old at this point. But the newer ones definitely were like you know, hey, we're not gonna do the boring old. You know science, heavy science and science fiction, star Trek. We're gonna make an action movie. So you go back and watch the. You know the JJ Abrams ones, the first two, and those are man, those are just heart-p. You know the whole movie. You're like this is awesome, you know so. I mean, they may not hold up, you know the test of time, but in terms of just like singular movie going experience, I saw both of those in the theater. I was like like this is awesome. And the. You know the second one, where they flipped everything from the, you know from star trek 2, like it was just man, it was really good.
Kyle:I, I like I enjoyed those reboots star trek itself has done, I don't know, four reboots, like they've done a lot of reboots. Each one has its own kind of thing. So I mean that would be a good case study for the value of a reboot. All right, I'm top gun. Maverick. We've already covered that, no need to talk about it more.
Kyle:10 of 10, 10 of 10. We talked about mission impossible. Uh, the batman we've talked about. They brought that one up the with robert pattinson and zoe kravitz. Well, let's talk about this though concerning the batman.
Jason:All right, I what I don't like is what they're doing now, where it's like we've got the Robert Pattinson Batman, we've got the Joaquin Phoenix Joker and they're not related at all, you know. And then you know there's the stuff that was in the Flash and you know, like the Ben Affleck Batman.
Jason:Yeah, that has nothing to do with this either and it's like running concurrently. You know, I'm like and then this is kind of what I was talking about earlier with Terminator Like let's just do one thing, you know, let's have one story instead of like six. You know, it's just really hard to keep up with all of them. And I know that's sort of like DC was like let's be the anti Marvel. Marvel's like we're going to have one story and we're going to do it well, and all this, and DC's like we're going to do whatever we want. You want to make a Joker movie? Make a Joker movie. You want to make another Joker movie that has nothing to do with that Joker movie? Go ahead and make it. And so I feel like this story gets so muddled. And of course now I'm not a comic book guy. Jay's like you go to the rack and there's like six Spider-Man comics Like these are the same. Are they different? You know, I don't really know. I've never really known the answer to that question.
Tyler:And then they're going to reboot the DC universe. Actually, I think they're like completely. Yeah, they're like we're done with this. We're doing a whole, nother one.
Kyle:We're doing a giant James Gunn believer and he's got the charge of that. I think he's going to do a good story. I think it'll be fun. I think so too, because what he did with Guardians of the Galaxy and Kyle's biggest prediction miss of movies so far, and I will never let him forget it. So I just wanted to bring that up.
Jason:I miscalculated, I thought the public appetite for weirdness. Uh, you know when the mcu this was 2014. You know when it came out, I was like this is it? The people are not going to tolerate this. Like they'll watch thor, they'll watch hulk, they'll watch iron man and whatever. Like these, these normal, these normal superheroes. But when you got a talking tree and a talking raccoon, people are like no, no, that's going to be a bridge too far for most people, and I was dead wrong. It made $400 million in the box.
Tyler:I was also one of those people who was kind of skeptical because I, before the movies, had really never heard about gardens of the galaxy. So it opened me up to like a whole different side and I was just like Guardians of the Galaxy. It opened me up to a whole different side. I was just like, wow, this is awesome.
Kyle:I got one that was a TV show that you guys probably never saw and then became a movie in a very different role. We went from Johnny Depp to Channing Tatum and Jonah Hill, 21 Jump Street and then 22 Jump Street respectively.
Julian:I've seen both those movies, actually, I did not know that was a reboot.
Jason:Yeah, late 80s TV show.
Julian:That's how.
Kyle:Johnny Depp got famous.
Jason:It was yeah, wow, it was like all these way too cool looking actors playing undercover cops in high school.
Kyle:They were all 30-somethings in high school, like walking around, like trying to pretend like they're a high schooler, went. Yeah, they were all 30 somethings in high school, like walking around, like trying to pretend like they're a high schooler, and everybody's like, yeah, this is great, this is great television watching popcorn. My favorite part of the new reboot was when jonah hill uh was dating ice cube's uh daughter and uh had to deal with all that. That was just kind of perfect in every way for me. The Mummy I didn't know was a reboot. That's interesting. Blade Runner 2049. Did you guys watch any of the Blade Runner films? Did you even know Blade Runner existed?
Tyler:Yeah, I do know Blade Runner. I think I've watched it, but I probably Because my dad's like this is the only reason I'm a nerd, because my dad's a nerd, but I'm pretty sure he's probably even seen Blade Runner and I've been there and I just didn't know I was watching it.
Jason:You probably fell asleep. It's pretty slow. The new Blade Runner's not a reboot, it's a sequel. It's just a 30 years later sequel.
Kyle:Well, yeah, but I mean you're right, but it's also kind of a reintroducing something to the culture, because Blade Runner was, you know, for old people, and then they brought in Gosling and they brought in you know the different people that they brought in for that one. All right, ocean's Eleven is actually a reboot.
Tyler:Ocean's Eleven they brought in for that one all right oceans 11 is actually a reboot oceans.
Kyle:Is that the one that was?
Tyler:what woman led. Oh, that's oceans eight, oceans eight. Oh okay, I was gonna say I did not like that one, I do like the, I do like the older ones with brad pitt, right yeah, but that's a reboot of an old one with Frank Sinatra.
Kyle:Yeah, the.
Jason:Rat Pack. They were called the Rat Pack, all this famous Dean Martin, frank Sinatra, sammy Davis, jr. That was one of their movies that they made together Brad Pitt, matt Damon, george Clooney, all of them. They then rebooted it, big Brother. What were you going to say, man? We cut you off like twice.
Julian:What were you going to say? I was going to say didn't Ocean 8 and Ocean 11 kind of come out roughly at the same time too? That's what my memory is telling me.
Jason:Yeah, ocean's 11 came out in like 2001 and Ocean's 8 came out in like 2016 or 18 or something like that. But that's kind of what I was asking about. The color purple, like, is it a reboot when you have the same story but it's done in a completely different way? So you have a drama that you turn into a musical? So with the Oceans film it's a good question it went from Oceans 11 men to oceans 8, all 8 women.
Jason:So it's like same story I mean different story, but same idea, completely different cast. You know, you see, sometimes with they'll take a trying to think of a, of an example this is really corny, but like there was a 1950s tv show called the honeymooners and then cedric the entertainer made a all black cast of the exact same show. You know, so it's the same idea, but like, take it and just do it like in a completely different way, so change the gender, change the race, change the whatever. So I mean, does that feel like a reboot? Is that just we're doing the same thing, just turning on its side? You know, doing it like a different way.
Tyler:I don't feel like that's a remake at that point Like, but I will say with oceans eight, cause I think uh, sandra Bullock was supposed to be related to.
Kyle:Yeah, danny ocean.
Tyler:Um, yeah, and so I think it was only supposed to be like a continuation of those same universe. Yeah, makes sense.
Kyle:Um, yeah, so maybe a reimagining is what we're saying there maybe that's what. That is all right, I got the, I got the pot. The top three here's number three. They said that casino royale was the number three best reboot. So you got james bond. Uh, they did it when in the 70s. Is that when they did that one 50s, the first ones were the late 50s? Okay, was that Sean Connery? That was Sean Connery, yeah. And then you got Daniel Craig doing the new one. That was an excellent reboot.
Tyler:I thought it was really good.
Kyle:Number two Mad Max Fury Road.
Tyler:I don't watch that.
Julian:I haven't seen that one. Yet that's another one I'm like I'm going to watch eventually.
Tyler:I definitely did not think I was going to watch that. I fully haven't seen it and I'm like maybe someone will put it on and I'll be in the room and be like I'll try it out, but I can't see myself putting it on.
Kyle:So the first Mad Max had Mel Gibson in it, and then the second Mad Max had Mel Gibson and then Tina Turner was in it. That was the third one. That was the third one. Okay, yeah, I didn't realize there was a missed one there.
Jason:And then the Road Warriors, the second one.
Kyle:The newer ones was like Sam Worthington, was that right?
Jason:It's Bane the guy who plays Bane oh yeah, yeah.
Kyle:Tom Hardy, tom Hardy, tom Hardy. Oh yeah, yeah, uh, tom hardy, tom hardy. And then charlize theron is kind of the the one that's. You know they're doing another story about her backstory, so they're they're still working it out there. And then the number one weird hang on, let's talk, let's lay it here for a second because this is.
Jason:This is interesting because it really is like it's the same, it's supposed to be the same character, but it's played by a completely different actor. It's in the same universe, you know um it's a same director yeah, yeah, it's a fantastic movie, but it is so weird. I mean so weird like yeah I can't it.
Kyle:It's like Australian anime is what it is it's like Australian anime.
Jason:Australian live action anime. Yes, they got these muscle cars. They got these trucks and muscle cars, and dude was playing guitar as they're attacking.
Kyle:It's so weird. It's a fever dream, no question about that.
Tyler:It's like rock star dystopia in my mind. Yeah, and like the Dream, no question.
Jason:Like dystopia in my mind, yeah, and like the, the, the, the, the leader of the people in this post-apocalyptic world is, like you know this? Like 400 pound man who like wears makeup, like like clown makeup type looking. It's just weird. It's so weird but it's so good, like it really is. Basically, the whole movie is a car chase. So like, if you're looking for a thriller like, wow, this is super cool, check it out, but you don't have to know anything, you don't have to know anything about any other movie, just watch it. If you want to have a good time and like be on the edge of your seat like what the heck am I watching?
Kyle:yeah, it's kind of like go for the ride, kind of like, uh fast and the furious on acid is kind of what that's like I love these descriptions anything with cars is like car related things, unless I'm watching like the actual movie cars, or I used to watch wacky racing on uhomerang. Yeah, I love that yeah. Yeah, I love that. That was like an all-star kind of cartoon right there.
Tyler:Yeah, it was really good.
Kyle:The number one reboot that they say is none other than someone who's already been mentioned on this podcast. So far you got any ideas. It's also another person's famous name there's a hint and we've already talked about him.
Tyler:We already talked about him. It's one person.
Kyle:Yes, I'm totally drawing a blank. Michael B Jordan's.
Tyler:Creed Creed. Wow, I'm shocked that a Jurassic Park wasn't on there. I was for sure waiting for that.
Jason:Would y'all consider?
Tyler:that a reboot Sort of.
Jason:Again, it's the same thing. Creed is a continuation of the story, it's just taking a side character. It's now Apollo's son, but Rocky's in the first two. It's not called Rocky anymore, but it's still in the first two, you know, so I mean it's not called Rocky anymore, but it's still like in the Rocky universe same world yeah.
Julian:I feel like with Jurassic universe, the Jurassic universe and Rocky universe, they're all just continuations, because don't they even reference like oh yeah, in the past this happened. In the past that happened.
Jason:Like yeah the only one of the Jurassic the Chris Pratt Jurassic Park movies that I've seen is they get in one of those Jeeps from the original one that does the tour through the park. They find one of those Jeeps and jumpstart it and that's what they drive as they escape. So yeah, it is. It's just a continuation.
Kyle:What a weird job to be basically a dinosaur wrangler like I don't I don't know that. That's on one of those tests like when you're taking in high school and they're like what are you going to be when you grow up? And they're like I'm going to be a dinosaur wrangler.
Julian:Like I don't know you would have to pay me a lot especially the lots of rappers.
Kyle:You think about those guys that the bomb makers, the bomb makers that don't have fingers and stuff. You know, it's like being a dinosaur wrangler, like you're missing some limbs for sure. It's like tiger. What was that? What was that netflix?
Tyler:series tiger king, where, like all the people were like yeah, this tiger I love tigers.
Kyle:This one chewed my leg off and they're like hobbling around. You're like, or is this one?
Tyler:shoot my leg off and they're like hobbling around, you're like no. Tiger King was also so concerned, like I think only watch clips of it through social media and I was just like who is like what is going on? And then all the stuff was coming out afterward about all the people on there and I was just like yeah, I can't do that.
Jason:Oh my God, how about that? Okay, so I think I saw a commercial for a movie that they're making based on the Tiger King people.
Julian:I'm not surprised.
Jason:Would that be a reboot? Would that be an adaptation?
Kyle:It's not a cartoon to live action, but it would be an adaptation of a Netflix series.
Jason:It's like a based on a true story though kind of that's true another genre.
Jason:Yeah, I, I think in. In summary, for me, when I think about whether it's a live action adaptation of a you know, of a cartoon or whatever, or whether it's a reboot, the whole, I can't say yes or no. You should or you shouldn't do it. All I can say is just make the story good. If you're going to start over, just make it good. Do it right Back to Scooby-Doo. Make a good cast. Don't think it's. I think you said this, tyler, earlier. Just don't make it a money grab. Really care about the story. Craft a story, think about it, plan it out. That's the problem with Star Wars. They didn't plan it out when they made new ones. All those things like where are you going, you know? Really care about it. Plan the story out, think about it and don't just you know, and don't just say, well, if we build it, they will come. You know which they may.
Julian:But they won't keep coming over and over again. If it's bad, you know people won't care. So that's my I think that's my final analysis or assessment. Oh, I got should. I got two things with that. I got two things with that one with it planning out. That is why I like one piece, because from episode one to a thousand and one hundred currently, it's all been connected some way, shape or form. It does take some time to get to see how it's connected.
Kyle:Are you making that up? Is that just a?
Julian:joke no no, it's.
Kyle:It takes a while but let's go back to that real quick. Did you say a thousand episodes?
Jason:it's kind of like a thousand thousand one hundred yeah eleven one thousand one hundred and nine. I looked it up. I have no idea what one piece is, so I had to look it up.
Tyler:It's about pirates kind of.
Kyle:It's about pirates, kind of what are the Simpsons up to? I can't even there. It's like there's no way they're close to that. They're probably in the 400s.
Tyler:They have to be more than that, I would think.
Jason:Let's see, I'm looking at IMDB, here we go.
Julian:And I was wrong.
Jason:It was 1,113 of One Piece. Oh, that's right, we did crack 100.
Julian:Did you say we? Are you part of the One?
Jason:Piece nation yes.
Julian:He's a creator.
Kyle:You're on the writing team mean, I guess if you make it to 1013, it's probably like family or something 768 simpsons, episodes 768 that's a lot. Yeah, my uh kind of like you, big brother, my aunt jean ell. She gets into TV shows so much that at night she'll lay in bed and start praying for the TV characters. That's true, that's not dedication. Yeah, she'll be praying for him and I'm like you know they're not real right, like you know you don't want to laugh on somebody's brain but you know.
Julian:These are characters.
Tyler:Two dimensional. You don't want to laugh while somebody's praying, but you know it's like. I hope Scooby-Doo does okay in the next episode.
Julian:And you're just like. One thing I wanted to ask you guys was what is one show or movie that you would actually want to see rebooted?
Kyle:I was going to ask that too. That's a good question.
Julian:Would want to see or would not.
Tyler:Now you're a part of the collective brain cell.
Julian:Did you say would?
Jason:or would not.
Julian:Would you would want to actually make it and hopefully it ends up being good.
Jason:You can't say Jay, do you have one on deck I? I need to think on that, I pray on that I have mine all right, what you got I have mine.
Julian:It's I'm not sure if you guys seen this one, but the movie treasure planet, that is one movie that I would love to see a live action take on didn't disney.
Kyle:Is that michael j fox?
Julian:and that's disney, yeah, yeah, yes, yeah, that could be good.
Jason:Yeah, you're right, good, yeah, I think my kids like that one. We, when disney plus came out, was searching through it, was like, hey, check this one out, this one might be cool treasure planet is pretty good.
Tyler:Oh, I would like to see hoodwinked, if any of y'all have seen that movie oh yeah, that's really good, that's a hey that's a that. Yeah, that's fun. That would be really good.
Kyle:Hey, that's a funny movie, is that the gnomes?
Tyler:I don't even know. It's one of those movies where it's not really attached to anything big.
Jason:I think it's a lot of fairy tales right.
Tyler:It's like a collection of fairy tales. So it's like following Red Riding, right? Yeah, it's like a collection of fairy tales.
Kyle:So it's like following red riding hood, but then, yeah, that movie's a trip. That movie, yeah, I like that one. It was really good the grandma does extreme sports I'll have that her line.
Julian:Uh, just uh, just wait one p picky minute. Just because I'm um crap, what's? Oh, a double crossing secret agent doesn't mean I'm lying, I'm like wait a minute.
Jason:When they're interrogating all of them. It's just so great.
Kyle:It's good. I mean, if I'm thinking about cartoons, I don't think this has been done yet, but I loved Voltron growing up and I think it would be so cool to have a voltron live action, like I don't like that one.
Tyler:Have you seen the newer one on netflix? Yeah, yeah I love that. That's a really good one.
Julian:I was always confused about voltron and power rangers were different. Yeah, but in my but I watched voltron and power rangers. But I like them both.
Kyle:I think Voltron's quite a bit more depressing, right.
Tyler:Yeah.
Julian:A little darker. Yeah, they had to.
Jason:They edited quite a bit, from what I understand, from the Japanese version to what showed in America in the 80s. Yeah, I think they had to edit quite a bit.
Kyle:I want a reboot of the film Goonies. That's what I want. I want to see a new Goonies.
Jason:Okay, that's pretty beloved yeah.
Kyle:That's why I want to see it.
Jason:If it were done well how would?
Kyle:you update that. What would be the modern thing? The 80s economic crash in 2007 or whatever's a very similar kind of experience, and losing houses and all that that would be.
Jason:That would be pretty interesting I don't know if I want to see this, but I, I I saw a deep fake of uh, of back to the future, with robert downey jr as doc brown and tom holland as marty mcfly and it was perfect and I started thinking about that and I wrote about half the movie in my brain in like six minutes when I was thinking about it. So you know, if I could have that cast, if I could have a crazy Robert Downey Jr as Doc Brown and Tom Holland as Marty McFly, I might, would be up for Back to the Future. But you know, I don't think I want to see it, but that's. I can't think of anything else. I think that might would be a.
Kyle:That could be fun at the very least. I think they've had lots of talks about that.
Jason:Yeah, so my thought was okay. So the thing with Back to the Future is always so unexplained and honestly kind of creepy. Why is Marty McFly, who's a pretty cool guy he's got a cute girlfriend, whatever why is his best friend this 60-year-old man? No one ever really asks that question.
Kyle:Because Marty McFly likes to rock and there's no way he'd create that amp on his own. So he reached out. He answered an ad in the phone, papers or whatever in the newspapers and him and Doc Brown became friends because they needed something, they needed to work together there, I could see that.
Jason:So my thought was, though in the remake, doc Brown is actually Uncle Brown. He's this strange, like weird uncle and he shows up at a family gathering and he's talking about time travel and Marty, you know, is there and he's like this guy's nuts, this guy's crazy. And somehow he goes back in time and now he's got a. You know, he's got to hang with uncle Brown. You know they can still call him doc, but you know what I mean. Like, but he's an uncle, he's a, he's, he's a distant relative family member.
Kyle:Yeah, that takes the creepiness of you. Know this old man. I like that. I've never really watched it. Maybe some of you can correct me or not, but isn't kind of rick and morty, kind of the same thing, I mean, isn't it like a old, weird creepy dude?
Julian:yeah, if I heard and read correctly, so you know, take this with a grain of salt. Yeah, I heard that rick and morty was actually based off of Back to the Future. Yeah, and it was like a parody and then it became its own thing.
Tyler:Yeah, that makes sense, because they have it in the show as his grandpa and so, yeah, at least they have that connection, so it's not like he just met this old man.
Kyle:You guys will have to forgive me, but I've got a date with twin daughters to take them to dinner tonight, so I'm going to have to.
Julian:I was about to say I was like I was going to give you the floor for the listening. You can hear how Jay and Kyle think about their book and everything, but I'll give you the floor to you before we head off and everything.
Kyle:So yeah, if there's anything you want to promote, say anything. Anything is yours, I'll give a uh, I'll give a short description of the book and then kyle, if you want to, uh, give the the pitch of uh, where they can get it. Sure, we, we wrote a ridiculous, fun, zany story about the theory of what if all the rock stars that died too soon in life didn't actually die. What if they faked their deaths to become secret agents to save the world? Our story takes place in 1999.
Kyle:The DRS team of secret agents is working to stop a problem that's in 1999 that they can't quite figure out. And so they recruit a new member to fake his death and become part of the DRS, and his name is Cole Denton. And Cole Denton is a tech rock star in the vein of Steve Jobs or Zuckerberg or one of those people, and he's there to help them battle this world-ending problem that they don't know how to stop. And we get to go into the universe and get to meet all of these famous rock stars that are now living these secret lives in 1999 through the eyes of Cole Denton. And it is a story that's not unlike men in black or the Kingsman. It's fun, it's ridiculous, it's a secret world that nobody knows about, that's actually behind the scenes, doing everything they can to help make the world a better place.
Jason:Yeah, and you can find it anywhere books are sold. We do have a website, dead rock stars bookcom, where you can get autographed copies, uh, directly from us, if you like. That helps a lot. But if you want to get it from amazon, you want to get it from your local bookstore, they can order it. You can find it anywhere books are sold. Now it's not gonna be in stores, but online. So, yeah, we'd, we'd love to, uh love to get you a copy. Check out our website, grab your copy of the dead rock stars. It's a lot of fun and, like jay said, it's, uh, it's zany, but it's great. We uh yeah, we're proud of it.
Jason:We're really proud of it, we think we think it's a really good story. That was my, that was my thing. Make it a good story.
Julian:We think it's a really good story yeah, and it would be a great movie fantastic just saying just saying someone, reach out to them and you know, listen to this, make, and you've now some ideas. But before I'll let you go, you know fully, jay, the last thing we do is yes, the thing. And for me, for me, it's my turn to do the thing. So my thing is a quote from Donald Rollins, and it is if you can't find happiness in the struggle, you won't get the reward. That that's that's it.
Julian:That that's good that's good to say, uh, don't forget to ask yourself, ask others and never stop asking questions see you, we're done bye.
